In chapters 6-7, Gillmor anticipates a concern that someone coming from Lippmann’s perspective might voice: citizen-journalists won’t know enough to set the news agenda or to cover events responsibly and effectively. Gillmor argues that the mob may bungle things, but there are two forces able to prevent half-informed citizens from making a mess of the news: reporters checking citizen journalism to ensure its quality and citizen journalists checking one another (with 1,000 eyes, all bugs are shallow). Do you think that these countervailing forces are enough to address Lippmann’s concerns about the ineptitude of the average citizen? In your answer, give specific reference to a site (blog, forum, etc.) where citizen journalism is still dangerous despite these countervailing forces or where journalists and other citizens keep things honest and ably performed.
Submitted by longaker on Fri, 10/28/2005 - 3:00pm
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Blogs will gain credibility
Blogs will gain credibility by having good policies and a good track record. Yeah, it's probably unrealistic that blogs are going to pay professional journalists to fact check bloggers, but there are other ways for new media sources to increase their value. I'm sure a site will soon exists (if it does not already) that rates blogs somehow, based on whatever criteria it sees fit, just as websites are. Most blogs already have their own rules regarding posts, and while that may limit some speech, it does provide guidelines for worthy posts. Editors of blogs may start to create mission statements and policies like other journalistic forms.
I also agree that bloggers have to check each other. As this resource further develops, I think a standard for which to judge and use posts will also form.
By the way, the time on the CWRL forum hasn't changed for Daylight Savings yet, which is odd.
Annotated New York Times
One blog, called the Annotated New York Times, is a forum specifically for people to comment on NY Times articles. Reading through them, I found a few especially interesting. I think something like this is a happy medium between the two schools of thought: citizens have the agency to have meaningful deliberation (Dewey), but they won't always seek out and discuss the most important issues (Lippman).
http://annotatedtimes.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/7/5/4363B968053A775D/
After reading this Times article, it was interesting to see what others felt the aricle hadn't talked about.
Ineptitude of the citizens?
Ineptitude of the citizens? Oh, because professional journalists are always so apt. As far as I know there has not been a confirmation on the mass baby rapes, widespread murder, or any other of the many horrible horrible things reported after the levees broke.
Or let me take another angle. It doesn't take technology to perpetuate misinformation or ineptitude of citizens. If there weren't blogs, there'd be those irritatingly smug email forwards. If there weren't those email forwards there'd be phone or water cooler conversations. If anything, technology helps alleviate this. I get 1/20th of the forwards I used to get. You receive one, and you go straight to snopes.com to comfirm or debunk it. Then you send it back to the person that sent it to you as well as everyone they sent it to. The more this happens the more you get a sixth sense of what is urban legend and what needs to be investigated because it could actually harm you. This could happen with blogs.
If blogs encourage conversation then at least people will be able to analyze what's on the table, and other information can be thrown in for consideration that may shed light on the quality of information.
Besides, although many blog posts do have an editorial or opinion kind of feel, most do actually link to an actual news article. People still have to go to the news article and think for themselves about the information it presents. They can always fact check anything they're not too sure about.
the logistics don't really add up...
So, there's probably a ridiculously insane amount of blogs out there, while at the same time a finite amount of so-called 'professional' journalists. They're supposed to regulate whether or not the citizens are pursuing a viable new agenda??? It's a nice ideal, but it kinda falls apart when you get down to nut and bolts. In addition, we have some crazy-assed journalists out there. I would probably read a blog that was monitored by Geraldo Rivera for entertainments sake, but thats it. I don't think that this would work....but maybe I'm missing something.
good to a certain extent
I tend to agree with Devon that it is not probable that professional journalists will alone be able to keep a check on citizen journalists. I would also agree that, to an extent, citizen journalists are not capable of keeping checks on one another--but I do not think that this means that good citizen journalism is altogether illegit and impossible.
Gillmor makes the case that citizen journalism adds multiple perspectives and often ends up providing profession journalists with a critical, insider angle that they probably would not have access to otherwise. So, I'm gonna go ahead and play the "value of the marketplace of ideas" card on this one. I strongly believe that Gillmor correctly points out the potential of blogs and wikis to create more informed democracy, and he provides many examples to back up his claim. My personal favorites are the one about Ben Chandler winning a special election and the one about the proliferation of Iranian blogs.
Of course, maintaining the ethics of fairness, accuracy, and thouroughness that Gillmor calls for within the broader (non-political) realm of the "blogosphere" will remain a challenge. I ran across an example of the dangers of citizen journalists who do not live up to these standards:
From http://www.opinionbug.com/index.php?p=915:
From a post on the same topic:
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/10/islam_screams_w.html
Perhaps a major qualification to citizen journalism is that people will always blog and report through their own bias. It's just a matter of having enough faith that the public will distinguish the types of speech that are biased from what is politically/socially constructive and relevant to them.
interpretation
I think that, perhaps the largest problem involved with blogging, in relation to Lippmann's concerns would be interpretation of stories that are innaccurate. A lot of what is posted in blogs falls under the editorial categories where the authors are giving opinions of news. If a reader takes interpretation as fact, then they run the danger of misinforming a section of the public. The only blog I really read is burntorangereport.
In a recent post, Jim Dallas, relates tax reform to Granola. claiming it "reeks of seriousness but, in the end, isn't really all that good for you." I am by no means a tax expert, nor am I interested in issues concerning tax reform. So as this is one of the only chances for me to hear about taxation problems, since Dallas only links to a site explaining his argument (a site I have no interest in reading) I am left thinking very little about an issue that, for all I know, could have a large effect on my life.
Sad Gillmor (rather than happy)
I think the problem lies in who to believe. If someone posts something incorrect on their blog and then someone makes a comment correcting the mistake, are people going to take that correction seriously? Are people even going to read the comments? I think reporters checking the factuality of blogs is not possible. There are too many citizen journalists and too few professionals with nothing better to do than to help citizens distinguish between good and bad info. I think Lippmann's concerns over people not being good journalists are valid and I believe impossible to counteract. I think eventually people may go to certain sites that have been reliable in the past and thus can build reputation and become more consumed that way but for the most part it is very unlikely that someone will be able to get totally correct info from the average citizen. For example on wikipedia which is an internet encyclopedia made by citizens with supposed factual information, there are still mistakes all the time. I wrote a column on past republican supreme court picks and went to wikipedia for some historical info and dates and found on Owen Robert's info. page that he was appointed by president harding. Later when I was editing my column I fact checked all my info and found roberts to have been actually appointed by president Hoover. I changed my column and edited the wiki site in order to reflect the accurate information. But things like this happen all the time on blogs and elsewhere and not everyone fact-checks.
Facts get fuzzled
The way I see is is that peoples perception of the truth and facts gets blurred with all the other information in their heads. In blogs people are going to state facts they believe to be true but may not actually be and since that will never change I don't see the public ever looking to Blogs for correct information.
If someone's checking out a
If someone's checking out a political blog, they're already interested in the subject. If someone corrects something that the blogger posted, yes, there will be the question of who to believe. But since the people are already interested, I think it's more likely that they'll put the effort into maybe looking at another source to find out what the truth is. Then they can comment their findings, and the cycle goes on. It's Gillmor's self-correcting journalism at work.
But isn't your experience a
But isn't your experience a good example of what Gillmor is arguing? You, an intrepid journalist, consulted a public Wiki in an attempt to flesh out the facts and backstory of your work. Because you are a good and responsible journalist, you checked all your facts and, when you found the error, edited the Wikipedia site to include the corrected information. You changed your article and everybody won. Some professional journalists may consult the research of citizen journalists, but the burden of fact-checking remains firmly planted on the professionals' shoulders. Just as you recognized your responsibility to contribute, through correction, to Wikipedia, professional journalists who are worth their salt will correct the work of citizen journalists in a similar way. Lippmann's argument that citizens are incapable of knowing enough about an issue to effectively deliberate does not necessarily rule out the ability of an individual to bring an issue to light. Gillmor points to several examples where citizen journalists and bloggers informed the media of newsworthy events (the section about the BBC was interesting). The public can write all they want about an issue, even make lousy accusations and start small wars, so long as the media does their job effectively when they seek to cover the issues raised in the public sphere (forums, blogs, etc). How much bungling can a citizen journalist do if there are responsible journalists capable of correction and guidance?
Hey did I miss something on
Hey did I miss something on friday? Were we not supposed to post? Because if so I take it all back ^_^